Showing posts with label Wind Power. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Wind Power. Show all posts

Thursday, July 8, 2010

Eco-nomics: When Power Comes From Weather

The New York Times' Green blog has an interesting story about the BPA and how it dealt with all of that dang rain we got this Spring. All of a sudden they were faced with much more water than they expected.  Just spill it, you say?  Well, apparently that is no good for the fish.  So they have to scramble to curtail as much energy production as possible.  Now, here is the thing, just because a fossil fuel plant or a nuclear plant is not making as much energy, it is not clear to me that they are burning that much less fuel. I would be interested to know what you all out there know, but I was under the impression that you can't just flip the switch on a coal fired plant - it has to stay hot.  I am sure it has some marginal impact though.
Anyway here is the post:

Engineers say that if the power grid becomes more reliant on renewable energy, a lot of new transmission lines will have to be built at some point or there will be unhappy consequences. Mostly this problem has been predicted rather than experienced. But the future may have arrived last month, when the Bonneville Power Administration, a federal agency that oversees power transmission in the Pacific Northwest, had more energy than it could comfortably use.

The BPA is accustomed to a surplus of hydroelectric power in the spring, as the winter snow pack melts. Last winter there was only about 60 percent as much snow as usual, according to energy experts. But in the late spring heavy rain arrived. Unlike snow melt, which can be predicted by temperature, rainwater gives little warning. And suddenly there was a surplus.

“This year was a little more severe and a little more unexpected,’’ said Michael C. Milstein, a spokesman for the power administration.

In a normal spring, the BPA first shuts down its fossil-powered plants, then exports as much as it can so its neighbors can do the same. This year, he said, “we were essentially asking other utilities to shut down their thermal plants, and most of the coal and gas plants in the region were shut down. They were taking low or no-cost power from us.’’

When it runs out of neighbors that can take the power, the BPA can also let the extra water run down the dams’ spillways, bypassing the power-producing turbines. But that turns out to pose an environmental problem. Water that goes down the spillway gets frothy, and the excess air bubbles can kill salmon and steelheads, an endangered species in the upper Columbia River. So the BPA solved the problem by running all the water through the turbines, making power it didn’t need, Mr. Milstein said.

But beginning around June 8, the rainwater arrived along with an excess of wind power coming from the same storms that brought the rain. Pushing all the power it could to its neighbors, BPA had to turn to the only nuclear plant in the neighborhood, the Columbia Generating Station, and ask the operators to scale back.

This is unusual: nuclear plants are designed to run at 100 percent power and have trouble changing their power settings. “It turns out 100 percent till you shut it down to refuel,’’ said Rochelle Olson, a spokeswoman for the plant.

Columbia is accustomed to reducing power to 85 percent and sometimes 60 percent. In the following days, however, BPA asked the plant operators to go down to just 22 percent. “This year was extraordinary because it all came so heavy and so fast,’’ Mr. Milstein said.

Nuclear operators dislike running at partial power for several reasons. In some cases it makes for less efficient use of the uranium fuel. And one way that they justify their high construction cost is by running as many hours of the year as possible. Some new plant designs are intended to run at partial power at times, but existing plants are not made that way.

The problem seems poised to get worse. BPA is rapidly adding wind power, mostly to meet the renewable portfolio standard in California. But when more spring wind combines with spring runoff, there will be surpluses that cannot be exported over existing power lines, industry officials say.

The BPA is preparing a major report on the event, which lasted until June 13, and will look for solutions. “Maybe transmission lines are where to go next, or the smart grid,’’ Ms. Olson said.

In fact, Mr. Milstein said discussions were under way about beefing up connections to California. Another possibility is asking thousands of homeowners to let their electric companies take control of their electric water heaters, he added. When surplus power exists, the water heaters could heat the water hotter than normal, in effect turning them into storage batteries.

But for now, he said, “we happen to have all these renewable resources, and sometimes they don’t work exactly like we’d want them to.’’

Now I hadn't heard of that one before - taking control of water heaters, what a cool idea. But they can't be that efficient of a storage device. I wonder what else? I always thought of storage solutions to this problem being ones of massive scale, but perhaps if we all had rechargeable batteries attached to our houses that drew in extra energy at low periods and discharged during peak times and had capacity to take extra energy during peak generation times.  I am sure I am not the first to think of this, but it seems like it could work, I wonder what the problems are?

Thursday, December 10, 2009

Eco-nomics: $1.4 Billion GE investment in Wind Power Coming to Oregon


From General Electric themselves:

NEW YORK, NY -December 10, 2009-GE announced today it has received a $1.4 billion contract from independent power producer Caithness Energy to supply wind turbines and provide services for an 845-megawatt (MW) wind farm project to be located in Oregon. The wind farm, called Shepherds Flat, has received the majority of the necessary government permits to operate and is ready to be built. When completed it will be larger than any wind farm currently in operation around the globe.


The biggest wind farm in the world, wow, I hope the bats will be safe!

Now, of course, the question: would this have happened in the absence of tax credits? And for bonus points, if not, how much is the appropriate credit amount? Tricky questions, which is why the whole tax credit game is hard.

And, hey green wonk types, is it the proximity to hydro, which can more easily adjust to the vagaries of wind power supply, that makes Oregon so attractive?

Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Eco-nomics: What Are the True Benefits of Wind Power?


A friend called me when the WW cover story on wind energy came out. He thought Jacquiss missed a big part of the story. I have been meaning to post on this for a long time (as you can see by the date on the story) but I have not had time to poke around more.

The basics are thus: Jacquiss points out the heavy subsidy that wind energy gets through things like the Business Energy Tax Credit. This is often thought of as a good thing because wind energy displaces environmentally damaging coal and natural gas based power generation. But the reality is not nearly so simple.

Since we get a lot of our energy from hydro we have a source of energy that is easily adjustable - much easier than a gas or coal fired power plant which can't just stop and start easily. So PGE and other wind utilities pay Bonneville to spill water when the wind is blowing hard.

This is not at all to say that wind energy credits are not worth it, or that in the long run we are better off if we subsidize the infrastructure now, rather it to simply say that if we are going to accurately weigh the cost of all of these subsidies to the state (and Jacquiss does a good job of this) we need to be clear about the actual benefits of wind power.

So if you are a customer of wind energy (like I am) it might come as a surprise that your wind sourced power is not offsetting coal and natural gas at anything close to one-for-one, in fact you might be offsetting hydro much more than coal and natural gas.

As I said above, I thought it might be fun to poke around and see what I could find out, but then I remembered that I have a real job. So if you know something about this chime in and add or correct at will.

[Photo credit: Thomas Boyd/The Oregonian]